Talk it Out: Religion


Production Team

Talk It Out is a podcast where Mia Sawaya discusses a topic, like feminism or religion, through music. Each episode, she discusses around three songs that bring up different aspects of the topic. Herself and a guest will form their conversation on the topic around the lyrics of the songs. Hopefully anyone listening will realize how influential good music can be, and the importance of embracing different viewpoints. Enjoy the music and conversations!

In this episode, I use songs to bring up certain aspects of the modern view of religion. We hypothesize why people are uninterested in church and try to understand our differing viewpoints of religion. We meaning, Mia Sawaya (myself), Joe Grady (the assistant pastor from Saint John XXIII), and Jessica Martinez (a FOCUS missionary). I don’t have the rights to the songs we talk about, so if you want to hear them, check out the links below.

Check Out:

Levitate Me- Saveus



Mulit-Love- Unknown Mortal Orchestra



We Could Be Free- Vic Mensa



Music video:

The genius annotations can be seen on Spotify on your phone. They are very insightful.

Rubin Report with Bishop Barron (pt. 2)

Intro and Outro Song: Blueberry- Manatee Commune

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