Join Jake and Carl as they talk about a consistent theme that comes up in male-centric anti-gender-based violence communities: It’s mostly White men who engage in the work. Jake, as a White man, and Carl, as a man of color, dig into the possible nuances and dynamics that play into the struggles of creating a race-inclusive space that focuses on deconstructing gender and gender-based violence. Understanding the complexities of identity is very important for men to exercise social justice.